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Occupy Gotham by Afalstein Occupy Gotham by Afalstein
Unless you live under a rock or something, you've by now probably seen the trailer to "Dark Knight Rises," Nolan's sequel to wildly popular "The Dark Knight Returns." If you've spent enough time on the internet, you probably also know how some people are talking about Catwoman's words in the trailer, about the rich "living so large and leaving so little for the rest of us." The Occupy Wall Street movement have claimed a lot of resonance with that statement, and a lot of people are suddenly pointing to Catwoman (and by extension Bane) as symbols of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

I'm a trifle curious as to what sort of movement willingly identifies itself with an anarchist thug and a leisure criminal. Granted, Bane's a lot more than *just* a thug (SO cool to see a movie that treats him as more than a Hulk), and Catwoman's always been in a grey area morally, but neither one of them are particularly civic-minded citizens. Catwoman's never shown much concern for anything outside of animal rights, and Bane... Bane looks out for Bane. Period.

Mind you, I think the idea of choosing a thug and a thief to represent the Occupy Wall Street movement is a great idea--John Galt would consider it rather fitting--but I'm just rather surprised that they willingly do so. Especially since Batman, everyone's favorite dark avenger, is both canonically and metaphorically the dreaded 1% that's always being maligned. Again, I consider this all very accurate and fitting, I'm just at a loss to understand why the Occupy movement decided to characterize itself that way.

So I've been puzzling over this for a while, and this image popped into my head, and I finally drew it out in my spare time, and here you are! There was going to be a crowd of people rushing toward Bane and Selina, yelling "Our heroes!" but I decided that'd be too much work.

I've been toying around with a simpler art form for a while now. I like being able to sketch stuff--it's a very versatile medium, and allows for a lot of nuances---but at the same time I'd like to be able to do quick, simple cartoons that get the point across right away. The Gunnerkrigg picture was one shot at that sort of art style, and here we have the next one. It's getting better, I think. It would be cool if I could really get it down, it'd be very helpful if I wanted to do a webcomic or something.

And I know Catwoman looks wonky. I couldn't get her to lean on Bane's shoulder convincingly. I didn't mean for Bane to come out quite so short, either... I hear that Tom Hardy, who'll be playing Bane, is slightly shorter than Christian Bale, so I did want him to be shorter, but he looks really squat. He's smiling, too, but you can't tell under his mask-respirator-muzzle.
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Emishly Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
SUCH AN IMPLIED THEME IN THAT MOVIE OH MYGOD.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
I know, right? I drew this when it was just the trailer, but the movie really brought it out.
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Emishly Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Lol it was crazy.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
In all fairness, though, a lot of Occupiers themselves claimed Catwoman and Bane as symbols, albeit before they saw Nolan's take on it. And Nolan's take actually fits with the comic history that they DID know.
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Emishly Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
True, but it wasn't very realistic with Bane being in charge of the League of Assassins.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2012
No, that was a stretch. Have to say, I honestly fell for Bane being Ra's son. For a moment there I thought he and Talia were siblings or something.
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Emishly Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Lol I was proud of myself. In the beginning of the movie, like the second or third time I was there, I was with my equally obsessed Bat-nerd, and I was like "Wait, is that Talia?" I think her accent gave in way. (: And is it just me or did the League of Shadows and Ra's being pronounced "Ras" bug you as much as it did me?
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012
Wasn't bugged by the pronounciation, but then apparently I don't pick up on these things as much. I missed Talia, until she joined Gordon's team and mentioned she was a civilian. Someone in the audience behind me guessed out loud(jerk) and ruined the surprise.
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yarrellpoof Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
'who are you'
"im gothams rekoning"
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012
"Then, when it is over, and Gotham is... ashes... You have my permission to die."
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yarrellpoof Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
that my freind is the best movie ever
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012
I still like Returns better. But Rises was very enjoyable.
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yarrellpoof Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i agree
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strangebloke Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
I don't know that batman is a good representative of the 1% John Galt talked about, as its his altruism that makes him so heroic, rather than his self-interest.

I think the reason why people are excited over Catwoman's statement is that they think that the movie will vindicate her, just as past nolan movies have vindicated the villains. (Batman killing Rhaz... and I haven't seen the second one.)
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excalibur2008 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
Plus in Year One didn't he basically tell a bunch of corrupt rich people he was basically going to shove his foot up their asses for their corruption.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
You are correct. He does that in the comic book too, and its specially interesting because those rich people are talking about how Batman is useful to distract people from the corrupt officials like them. And then Batman cuts the power and breaks in on their little gathering. Good times.

Point is, Batman takes the rich with the poor.
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strangebloke Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
special situation. Ra's was going to kill a lot of people if he didn't evacuate. So he got them out of his house in the most effective way he knew how.

But the point stands. Batman is no respecter of persons.
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excalibur2008 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2012
I'm not talking about Batman Begins, I'm talking about Batman Year One here's the clip in question

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Afalstein Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012
Technically Batman simply didn't save Ra's, but I see what you're saying. He doesn't kill Joker, so I don't think it held. I have heard of some people who consider Joker to be the hero of "Dark Knight" but that takes an specially twisted mind.

Batman is not a good representative of John Galt's philosophy, no. Batman gives stuff away ALL the time and constantly works for other people. I'm saying the Occupy Wall Street people are choosing John Galt's picture of them. John Galt pictures such protestors as theives, thugs, and parasites. So if they can just get the Tick in there...
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Faceoftheface Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012
batman's paper should say: "i am a fantasy product made to get people to stop complaining about income inequality because i am the hero but i am also in the increasingly oligarchic, corrupt and corporatist 1%."
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excalibur2008 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
I though Batman was against corrupt rich people.

I mean thats what I take from this at least

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xghfthfgxn Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2012  Professional General Artist
Read some of Batman's early stories. He pretty much uses his detective skills to find someone its okay for him to beat up. Superman took care of the corrupt 1%...until Frank Miller made him a Reagan's pet.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012
If you're into conspiracy theories, sure.
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Faceoftheface Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
have you even read The dark Knight Returns? If you notice the reaction to that comic people at the time said they hated Miller for making their hero into a fascist. Batman is the comfortable fantasy that rich people are looking out for you and protecting you...look around you and you'll notice that that's not the case. More like the opposite.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
How nice, but the point is that the Occupy movement is somehow willing to identify itself with the thief and thug as opposed to the hero. This despite the fact that Batman HAS had anti-business incarnations, as you point out (yes, I've read the Dark Knight). Even if you didn't want Batman, you could go with Green Arrow or something. But instead of the heroes, they go for the villains. WILLINGLY. Even eagerly, it seems.

I look around and I see rich people providing jobs for people, donating millions for inner-city relief and starving people in Africa, and providing half the tax dollars that keep our country hobbling along. And I see people hating them for it. All the bosses I've had have been considerate, hard-working people who dealt with me fairly. Maybe I'm lucky, but that's my experience of the 1%.
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Faceoftheface Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
because thieves and thugs are irredeemably bad and should be cast out of our sciety? because they have no rights whatsoever? Batman presents also a false image of criminal insanity: mentally ill offender cannot be evil because, well they're mentally ill and therefore not culpable and yet all the batman comics do is say how evil insane indivduals are. In reality, those people would not even realise that what they're doing is wrong. Who says OWS doesn't identify with batman? As far as I can see every kind of people are welcome in the movement. All I'm saying is that in today's society if you're rich yo can get away with anything but if you're poor you're lucky you're not killed by the police in its War on the Poor and Homeless. It's easy to employ a few hundred people when millions are unemployed because of a system that gets less and less money because of upper class tax cuts and it's easy to give away money to charity without implementing a working infrastructure that allows for a functional community. Noone hates rich people but I will not tolerate the few rich individuals that are corrupt and criminal and keep getting away with fraud. If the financial sector believed in any way in capitalism they'd have gone into bankruptcy because if you're not successful why should you get bailed out and let the middle and poor classes pay for your fraudulent and reckless behaviour? capitalism? More like "caputalism". Sorry, but that's my experience with the 1% and I don't see any batman comics in which batman goes after corporate crime.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2012
Then you haven't read many Batman comics. The whole premise of the recent "Black Glove" arc was that rich people are evil. Ra's Al Ghul's empire is built on multinational corporations. The "Batman: Year One" comic had him dealing with all sorts of corrupt businessmen and police officers. Batman's gone after Lex Luthor countless times. Whenever Bruce attends one of those parties that he hates, he has to have an obligatory: "These despicable rich people" thought.

Your blanket statement "If you're rich you can get away with anything" is wonderfully vague and specifies nothing. Also, considering the amount of corporations that HAVE gotten busted for one thing or another, it is inaccurate.
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Afalstein Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012
The end of Batman's paper reads: "I am Vengeance. I am the Night. I. AM. THE. 1%!
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